Just like the cosmic cubes that hes only half of. It's been the focus of two films and is a threat that is incredibly dangerous for the X-Men … Why does Eternity defeat the Phoenix Force, Mr. Master? not even the phoenix force can match eternity. " To defeat him, The Phoenix Force can merely warp the fabric of reality within the Dark Dimension, making Dormammu spend, say, an eternity trapped within a living hell. i'm also pretty sure beyonder wasted the phoenix force somewhere. Phoenix ForceAge of Apocalypse(Earth-295)X-ManNazis Won WWII(Earth-597)War of the Worlds(Earth-691)Phoenix ForceAsgardian X-Men(Earth-904)Dark PhoenixSecond X-Men Team Never Formed(Earth-913)By the Maker(Earth-1008)Most Wanted(Earth-1017)Mutant X(Earth-1298)Ultimate Universe(Earth-1610)Dark PhoenixEarth-Z(Zombiverse)(Earth-2149)Nocturne's Reality(Earth-2182)Phoenix … Juggernaut vs Doomsday. 100. That makes no sense. ill go with Eternity. From: Uncanny X-Men v.1 #203 (1986) Greetings! GalacticStorm "The Beyonder no contest. In Round 1, the teams split: Lucifer faces off against Preretcon Beyonder and Elaine Belloc faces off against White Phoenix of the Crown and House of M Scarlet Witch with the Chaos Wave. Current Gaming Goals: Top 100 in a combined leaderboard on Boom Boom Rocket, 200/200 on N+. his powers were found to be mostly illusion based. Mr.Master speaks about marvel cosmics. Jamie Braddock? Uncanny X-Men #203. yeah. He wiped out a universe in seconds and rewrote it. Dark Phoenix. The Dark Phoenix would be nothing but a parakeet with the gauntlet in the right hands. I think Eternity is more powerful...or it may just be my male bias. Even Jean Grey is keeping her distance. . When the X-Men have the chance to end the Beyonder's threat … The Beyonder and the One-Above All both have a decent claim to being the strongest character in the Marvel Universe. Welcome to my blog page! Dormammu, Galactus, or Dark Phoenix?" powers of mind, soul, space, time, reality. X-Men : Dark Phoenix, un film de Simon Kinberg However, it is worth noting that the Dark Phoenix is slightly less powerful than the Phoenix Force itself. eternity embodies the universe - living, non-living and everything in-between. Superhero battle match: The Beyonder (Earth-1298) versus Phoenix. For Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 on the PlayStation 3, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Who's stronger? <<Until u have checked out the references i gave u, you cant really continue to argue with me.>> the watcher is a much better source...all the dude does is observe everything in the universe, "sure i can. The Beyonder is more powerful on an abstract type of level, he can manipulate reality, which means that he can bend Etenity to his will, as well as depower Phoenix. "The Beyonder no contest. Death does the same thing in classic xmen. Elektra??? The Phoenix is a proven cosmic entity and planet-buster, and is more fully realised through the Dark Phoenix. Eternity is the living embodiment of all that is, was, and ever will be. . eternity embodies the universe - living, non-living and everything in-between. ". lol If it be full PF powers, then it could maby take Eternity down (in pure destructive power, PF is above Eternity, Dark Phoenix), I don't think so. He was his own univese, unknown by ours. The dark side of the Phoenix force is something to be feared and dreaded. of course, in the comics he never would, as each abstract serces a purpose for the universe and that's all galactus is itnerested in, cosmic harmony. Eternity wins otherwise. Or that they cancel each other out? if it's rachel summers, he can always come up with another huge cosmic revelation that washes over her like a tsunami, forcing her to run away and cry about her feelings on the matter. The Phoenix stared at the Beyonder for some time, mentally debating what to do with this strange but unbelievably powerful being. Intelligence. Your list is very wrong. Tiamut=the most powerful celestial to exist. galactus is said to be on the same level as eternity and death, hence above the PF. However, it's possible that Elektra may outclass Blade in a weapon combat situation, even with his superior strength and speed. Galactus vs El Espectro. And that was only Rachel Phoenix not true Phoenix. Now it looks like we're gonna have to start all over again!! There is a lot of beyonders The one from Secret Wars 2 is not the same as secret wars 1 then there was the beyonders who took counter earth away from the high evolutionary. Doomsday vs AMAZO. It took like 2 months for me to get thru 2 u that i was right even though I backed up my claims and others who had read the same comics supported me. Opposite of Eternity/Infinity. For Marvel: Ultimate Alliance on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Dark Phoenix vs. Jean Grey vs Dr. Manhattan? © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Ok so if Phoenix is such an uber-powerful force, where was she was Thanos was wreaking havoc on the Marvel Universe...in both the Infinity Gauntlet saga, and in 'The End'? The Beyonder and Blade vs. not similar enough. now, it just so happens galactus is also the worst written character in the history of marvel so EVERYONE (including the PF) has whooped him. Phoenix has to prove his innocence, and Murdock has to prove his guilt. He and Death are the top dogs as far as cosmic beings go, (not counting LT, of course). "the phoenix force is the embodiment of all the psychic energy of all the living beings in the universe. Closing out the Fox era of X-Men movies, Dark Phoenix revisits the story of Jean Grey falling prey to the powerful Phoenix Force - but the reviews are even worse than they were for X-Men: The Last Stand. well he's not a faker, he's just not a real-life, abstract being, but he still lives, and is still, from what i have seen, to be one of if not the most powerful being in the universe. Uncanny X-Men VF/NM #203 Phoenix vs Beyonder Secret Wars 2 Words by Chris Claremont Pencils by John Romita Jr
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Characters Battles Teams Super Powers Forum Feed Collections. The Rachel/Beyonder fight doesn't appear to be a power thing so much as a 'the Beyonder is psycho-emotionally immature and was overwhelmed by her memories and emotions' thing; which doesn't sound like a tactic the Dark Phoenix would think to take, imho. Phoenix Force is easily killed by Omnipotent beings such as Beyonder, The-One-Above-All, and Beyonders. KMC Community Forums. Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. Again, the Phoenix Force has been stated to be multi-versal. Jamie Braddock, HoM Wanda, someone with the IG, someone with the UN, the Nemesis, Abraxas, Alien Entity, Oblivion, Infinity, Death, and the 3 Infinites(maybe). Eternity is the universe, Phoenix is just life. White Phoenix of the Crown Jean Grey: 10 B: Dark Phoenix Jean Grey: 1.6 B: Dark Phoenix (Venomized) Jean Grey: Phoenix Jean Grey: 662 M: Apocalypse Jean Grey: Jean Grey Jean Grey: 4.1 K: team class: 12 B in theory though, and at max power, galactus is . The character has been known under the aliases Marvel Girl, Phoenix, and Dark Phoenix. Vuk, under the identity of Margaret Smith,is the main antagonistof the 2019 superhero film X-Men: Dark Phoenix, the twelfthinstallment of the X-Men film series. "Eternity...because he is the embodiment of life in the universe. That was Post Retcon Beyonder that gave Phoenix the full power of Phoenix? Well it seems many of you forget beyonder killed death!!! The power of the Phoenix Force is so great even PR Beyonder was amazed. Proteus can defeat her. 100. By Matthew Wilkinson Mar 29, 2020. But in my opinion that is PIS, With her abilities, it should not have happened. are you insane? "Eternity and Infinity are two sides of the same coin. The starbrand was good but not that powerful, the Beyonder was powerful to affect reality but not take control it with the extent the gauntlet had. FF and SS. . This would give her a great advantage of Captain Marvel, whose greatest strength is her ability to fire powerful energy blasts. The phoenix embodies life and death and is the transitionary force between them. Beyonder vs The Living Tribunal # ... Beyonder vs The Living Tribunal # The Living Tribunal You've kind of given me that entitlement for you to reply back because you do. That is it. This is a page dedicated to comic books, comic book movies, pop culture news and other stuff that I … isnt she Eternity's equal when it comes to ranking and powers? "Dark Phoenix? Phoenix is more on par with Eternity. Be sure to subscribe! He ate Tiamut. Mandrakk locked himself away in the Pit to await the Final Crisis of the Monitors, when he would rise from the abyss and destroy creation. Superior to the abstracts of the universe and subsequently the full set of infinity stones in the Gauntlet. Franklin can defeat him. 100. In HOM it was stated that reality warpers can't hurt/harm each other. Kg reread my posts. Galactus needs to feed to re-energize himself. Actually don't laugh. Marvel is always changing the hierarchy, always introducing some new uber-powerful being that tops the others. Dark Phoenix would have little problem absorbing entire stars such is her ability to take in energy and use it to amplify her own abilities. Killing Death is MORE then enough to prompt a response and visit from LT.....but he was SCARED!!! 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 References 5 Discussions Jean Grey-Summers (born Jean Elaine Grey) is a fictional superhero appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. We listen, we learn. Phoenix is playing defense, and Murdock is the prosecutor. and master order/lord chaos are easily the weakest abstracts. Pre-retcon Beyonder wins. the phoenix force is the embodiment of all the psychic energy of all the living beings in the universe. Social Media: Facebook - DanCo Twitter - @officialdanco1 I think Eternity is being more powerful. During AVENGERS VS. X-MEN, Namor was one of the Phoenix Five, along with Cyclops, the White Queen, Colossus, and Magik. He is below the abstract beings in power. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Do writers have any common sense? But surely to debate properly u should hav done that anyway. In fact, she has demonstrated she is capable of absorbing the energy from a supernova. The Phoenix Force has never shown any such need. Ive included references. if its the Original Beyonder He wins with out breaking a sweat if it snot then Eternity wins but then again i dont know Pheonix cant die at all and if She does She comes back. However some of the others were lumping him/it together with death as well in the rankings which is why i started debating and stating the phoenixes status and position because death holds no power over the phoenix. . i'm also pretty sure beyonder wasted the phoenix force somewhere. The other Magus, is the techno-organic being who is the father of Warlock of the New Mutants (X-Men). galactus! Death holds no power over phoenix. Read Xmen and forever and Eternity tells this to jean and clarifies phoenixes status. Home » Comic Book Forums » Comic Book 'Versus' Forum » Dark Phoenix vs The Beyonder vs Eternity: Dark Phoenix vs The Beyonder vs Eternity Started by: armandovalles. He and Death are the top dogs as far as cosmic beings go, (not counting LT, of course). The Defendant is Leland Palmer, and he is being tried for the murder of Laura Palmer. Does he give into the dark urges it brings out or does he try to use this great power responsibly? What is PF rips it off. Dark Pheonix to the Beyonder would be like a fruitfly to us, annoying, but no threat. Though they would never fight to the death, unless they are being manipulated/controlled or Phoenix has a retarded host like Rachel. and since FF have been around longer than x-men, stands that IT is the more credible source. HoM wanda decimated and recreated the omniverse. 85. At the time, Rachel Summers, an alternate future daughter of Cyclops and Jean Grey, was the possessor of the Phoenix Force, and she and the Beyonder clashed. There is no FP Galactus though. In Round 2, the DC duo fights as a team against the Marvel trio as a team. Speed. Grant Morrisons run of new xmen and xmen: forever to see why ive said what i have and then rejoin the debate. Eternity may be able to defeat Phoenix, but galactus can't. since galactus is the third part of the triangle with eternity and death, and is considered the 'randomness' that allows the universe to proceed in a non-static way, (check out surfer vol 3 #8-10??) Without stressing. Pre-retcon Beyonder (who omnipotent beings and fundamental forces of the universe are powerless against)? From what I've heard, Death and Oblivion are two sides of another coin. I was so relieved when u finely accepted what id said for the first time a few days ago. LOL. Art by John Romita, Jr. and Al Williamson. "abstract entity the likes of eternity and death". He killed most of the New Mutants and this pitted him against the X-Men. well u still havent answered my question, what about Infinity? made living into 1 actual omnipotent body. death has no hold over phoenix force, which is why i put them on the same level...obviously, the PF could not affect death either. if it was the original beyonder, he would win though. "jeepers...surtur above galactus? Eternity and dark phoenix would beat him. Hello! I've heard of Oblivion, but never seen him/her. Regardez la bande annonce du film X-Men : Dark Phoenix (X-Men : Dark Phoenix Bande-annonce (3) VF). Except for Molecule Man, Beyonder, The One ABove All, Living Tribunal and Etnernity and Jaspers. I just notice that Galactus' power gets depleted while Phoenix's does not. Phoenix beats Galactus on certain circumstances, Galactus beats her on certain circumstances. Wanda has little control over her powers. He also was on the verge of destroying our universe. The Beyonder and Blade vs. 100. The Phoenix Force itself is what your trying at, and that entity is no match for TOAA(Unless your talking of one of the Celestials in which case Phoenix has killed Celestials before). Well, neither of them can die. oh and by the way, u said eternity and death are the top dogs besides LT, but what about Infinity, isnt she like the same thing as eternity? Created by writer Stan Lee and artist Jack Kirby, the character first appeared in The X-Men #1 … Beyonder. infinity DID seem a lot like eternity. Marvel Comics. More specifically the "Here comes tommorrow" story arc. Illusions??? Dark Phoenix vs Beyonder. To determine who holds more power in the Marvel Universe, here's a breakdown of these two godly beings. "Wolds within Worlds, Dimensions folding into themselves. Phoenix continues her ill-fated quest to destroy the Beyonder. Our experience with the Phoenix force is with Jean Grey and Rachel Summers. Phoenix might be more powerful than Galactus but not his little brother. 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